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May. 24th, 2010 | 12:13 pm

I couldn't help feeling moved by the ending. But still it was a massive copout. It was Magic instead of Science Fiction. It was a Fantasy story that used science fiction elements to hook viewers in who didn't care about the soap opera elements. To be completely cynical you could say that Lost was just 6 years of making people watch car commercials with a whackadoodle story interspersed. If there's no reason behind the whackadoodle, then it might as well have been "Harry Potter goes to Club Med."

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oscarlikesbugsy

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from: oscarlikesbugsy
date: May. 24th, 2010 07:13 pm (UTC)
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Well, I'm so glad I missed this series, then, despite ample footage of hot-men-without-shirts.

I'm surprised the series did as well as it did, given how quickly the complexity ramped up (and "lost" me). TV execs know that so-called 'closed mysteries' are hard to pull off. The audience gets bored and taxed too much.

But, I'm no barometer. I didn't tag along with Galactica, given its dark and oh-so-slow start, but many others did become BSG big fans.

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Pud

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from: stivalineri
date: May. 24th, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
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I made a comment on a wescobear thread that I have a suspicion that TV is as culturally insignificant in the long term as Byzantine chariot racing or Elizabethan bear baiting. I wish producers would just for once follow a good science fiction novel faithfully, like Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon or his last book Anathema instead of trying to come up with the Perils of Pauline or Rin Tin Tin every week.

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oscarlikesbugsy

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from: oscarlikesbugsy
date: May. 24th, 2010 11:21 pm (UTC)
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Perhaps, the ending or this story is a metaphor for our times, wherein reality IS virtual-real, nothing more, a new style of 'sound and fury'?

It is interesting what you conjecture about insignificance. It's certainly ubiquitous (99% of households in America) and plentiful, with more TV's in the average household than people.

But, as a cultural phenomenon, you are probably right. Wagner thought that he could make the theater (opera) THE cultural/moral touchstone for German society, but he was wrong. TV is probably affecting the culture more by what it is keeping people from doing, than anything cohesive that it is imparting.

It has changed the face of politics (no more FDR-like what-you-see-isn't-what-you-get), but it's hard to judge the distinct significance of that.

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Pud

saw this comment on Salon:

from: stivalineri
date: May. 24th, 2010 08:05 pm (UTC)
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Suckers.

Hi Billy Mays here, for new Lost.

Do you literally have years of free time to fritter away pouring, frame by frame over a fourty five minute tv show, then sharing the conclusions of your meaningless analysis with hundreds of other like minded nerdlingers on the internet?

Then new Lost is the show for you,

New Lost has everything an inane world of warcraft playing nerdlinger could possibly want - pseudo scientific hobbledygook, vague allusions to philosophy, brief shots of books that you can easily convince yourself have something to do with something but you'll never be quite sure what AND time travel!

SIMPLY INCREDIBLE!

BUT WAIT, THERES MORE, Order now and I'll throw in a free polar bear, some numbers that appear to unify the entire story but will be completely disregarded by the main arc, a four toed statue, a shark with a stamp on the side, some women who have miscarriages except for one who doesn't, a dog and a black kid who grows too quickly.

So call 555-JJABRAMSCOULDNTTELLAWELLROUNDEDSTORYIFHISLIFEDEPENDEDONIT right now and get your copy of Lost, TODAY!

—DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells

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oscarlikesbugsy

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from: oscarlikesbugsy
date: May. 24th, 2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
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I'm sure the new Dr. Who is happy to hear of DsigustedOfTunbridgeWells. {:-P

The truth is that it is much harder to make pure 'fantasy' than reality, so ... even our dreams are probably more 'bounded' than comprised of unintelligible mish-mosh.

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Pud

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from: stivalineri
date: May. 25th, 2010 01:07 am (UTC)
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But you know in Terry Pratchett or Phillip Pullman or Samuel Delaney novels, the fantasy has a logic to it, a system that's coherent. Even the "unbelievable" has some believabilty. That's my problem with the Twilight vampire-lite stuff, and the way it's been received, that "feelings" have trumped intellectual qualities in storytelling.

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sfogreekbear

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from: sfogreekbear
date: May. 25th, 2010 01:07 am (UTC)
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You may not believe this, but I never watched an episode. So it amusing just how much press this show, both poz and neg, has generated.

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Pud

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from: stivalineri
date: May. 25th, 2010 01:09 am (UTC)
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You have saved 3 full work weeks (120 hours) of your life then!

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Pantsman!

Was it though?

from: captainwhimsy
date: May. 25th, 2010 07:11 pm (UTC)
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I can see it two ways - either they all just died in the plane crash and everything was a construction - or, it all happened, and the alternate timeline was what was happened after they were all dead - naturally or otherwise - Hugo makes mention to Linus what a good 2nd he was, and they inly just started that story so I'm inclined to beleive the second. But who knows. I think they made it as ambiguous as possible so people would debate it or talk about it.

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Re: Was it though?

from: stivalineri
date: May. 27th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
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Poor Vincent

http://i.imgur.com/wtzBE.gif

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