Pud ([info]stivalineri) wrote,
@ 2009-10-09 14:30:00
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Obama - Nobel Peace Prize 2009
First off - Norwegians is the craziest peoples. Ask any Scandinavian and they'll tell you, they are likes so outs of their minds - all the berserker Wikings comes froms tzere.

Secondly - if it pisses off Republicans I'm all for it. I hope they bust a collective blood vessel.

Thirdly - Oh hell, why not? So what if he actually hasn't done much yet but make some good speeches. Just winning the presidency of the USA as a black man itself is pretty effing amazing, and such a game changer, and has given hope to billions of people. Maybe that hope is ill founded, there are two occupations we're involved in, and we've still got military tendrils in half the world's countries, perhaps the idea of an American president getting a Peace prize is oxymoronic. But the Peace Prize itself isn't just an award for previous achievement, it's also a spur towards further political action. It's a game changer itself.

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[info]danbearnyc
2009-10-09 07:51 pm UTC (link)
I call it the Olympics Consolation Prize. Though, I mean, it's not like it means anything. Hell, they gave one to Carter, fer chrissakes!

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[info]stivalineri
2009-10-09 08:42 pm UTC (link)
I do think it means something though. It's not a Jesus Prize, you don't have to be pure or even a good person to get it. (i.e. Kissinger and de Klerk). The Nobel Peace Prize acts as a sign for where people want change.

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[info]danbearnyc
2009-10-09 09:16 pm UTC (link)
But again, don't you have to have done something for it? Even Kissinger managed after much flummery to get a peace treaty through to end the Vietnam War, which ostensibly was the raison d'etre behind his prize. And de Klerk brought about the peaceful end of apartheid, a major development when you consider how many people in that area of the world have weapons. South Africa could have been another Zimbabwe, and we all know how well that turned out.

This year's nominees had to be in the hopper by what, Feb 10? He'd been in office for 21 days? It's more embarassing than anything.

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[info]stivalineri
2009-10-09 09:43 pm UTC (link)
Obama beat McCain. It wasn't a cakewalk. And even if he was only a mass of promises for a month into his term, those promises - talking with Iran, closing Guantanamo, joining the movement to hold off global warming have a huge impact on peace.

But I'm embarassed too, because think about it, in the whole world there wasn't one person who had done more for peace - no Russian, no Chinese, no Australian, no Canadian, no Saudi Arabian, no Brit, no Frog, nobody from South America or Africa.

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